On Hans Hoppe’s Magnificent Argument From Argument

(read from the bottom up)

From: Walter Block [mailto:wblock@loyno.edu]
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:32 PM
To: P
Subject: RE: Bodily rights vs property rights

Dear Peter:

I think Hans Hoppe’s work on argumentation ethics is the best shot at converting people to libertarianism. Talk about “elegant and coherent,” and you are talking about Hans’ brilliant argumentation ethics.

In any case, here’s a biblio on the argument from argument:

http://www.stephankinsella.com/2013/01/hoppe-on-treating-aggressors-as-mere-technical-problems/).

Hoppe, Hans-Hermann. 1989. “The Ethical Justification of Capitalism and Why Socialism Is Morally Indefensible,” chapter 7, A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism Boston: Kluwer Academic Publishers

Hoppe, Hans-Hermann. 1993. The Economics and Ethics of Private Property.

Studies in Political Economy and Philosophy, Boston: Kluwer Academic Publishers

http://hanshoppe.com/publications/liberty_symposium.pdf in Liberty

Kinsella, Stephan. Defense of Hans’ argumentation ethics vis a vis Murphy and Callahan

http://www.anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=312

Block, Walter E. 2004. “Are Alienability and the Apriori of Argument Logically Incompatible?” Dialogue, Vol. 1, No. 1.

http://www.uni-svishtov.bg/dialog/2004/256gord6.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse_ethics

Argument from argument:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse_ethics

Arguementation ethics, Argument from argument:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourse_ethics

hics”; see www.HansHoppe.com, go to publications, topics, argumentation ethics.

http://www.mises.org/esandtam/pfe3.asp

Hans: argument from argument: arg from arg argumentation ethics http://www.hanshoppe.com/sel-topics.php

Hoppe’s “argumentation ethic” defense of libertarian rights was first published, to my knowledge, in three articles in 1988: “On the Ultimate Justification of the Ethics of Private Property,” Liberty (September 1988); “The Justice of Economic Efficiency,” Austrian Economics Newsletter (Winter 1988); and a longer piece, “From the Economics of Laissez Faire to the Ethics of Libertarianism,” in: Walter E. Block  & Llewellyn H. Rockwell, eds., Man, Economy, and Liberty: Essays in Honor of Murray N. Rothbard (Mises Institute, 1988). These were included as chapters 10, 9, and 8, respectively, of Hoppe’s book The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (Kluwer, 1993). The most definitive elaboration of Hoppe’s theory is found in “The Ethical Justification of Capitalism and Why Socialism Is Morally Indefensible,” chapter 7 of his monumental A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism (Kluwer 1989; more info; hereinafter referred to as TSC ). This chapter is similar to the 1988 chapter in Man, Economy, and Liberty. These and other materials are available at Hoppe’s website.

Hoppe, 1988A, 1988B, 1988C, 1988D, 1993, 1995

Hoppe, Hans Hermann. 1988A. “On the Ultimate Justification of the Ethics of Private Property,” Liberty, September

Hoppe, Hans Hermann. 1988B. “The Justice of Economic Efficiency,” Austrian Economics Newsletter. Winter

Hoppe, Hans Hermann. 1988C. “From the Economics of Laissez Faire to the Ethics of Libertarianism,” in: Walter E. Block  & Llewellyn H. Rockwell, eds., Man, Economy, and Liberty: Essays in Honor of Murray N. Rothbard.

Auburn, AL: The Mises Institute.

Hoppe, Hans-Hermann. 1988D. “Utilitarians and Randians vs Reason.” Liberty

(November): 53–54;

http://www.libertyunbound.com/sites/files/printarchive/Liberty_Magazine_November_1988.pdf

Hoppe, Hans-Hermann. 1993. The Economics and Ethics of Private Property.

Studies in Political Economy and Philosophy, Boston: Kluwer Academic Publishers, pp. 204-207

Hoppe, Hans-Hermann. 1995. Economic Science and the Austrian Method. Auburn,

AL: The Ludwig von Mises Institute; http://www.mises.org/esandtam/pes1.asp;

http://www.mises.org/esandtam/pfe3.asphttp://mises.org/pdf/esam.pdf

These were included as chapters 10, 9, and 8, respectively, of Hoppe’s book The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (Kluwer, 1993). The most definitive elaboration of Hoppe’s theory is found in “The Ethical Justification of Capitalism and Why Socialism Is Morally Indefensible,”

chapter 7 of his monumental A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism (Kluwer 1989; more info; hereinafter referred to as TSC ). This chapter is similar to the 1988 chapter in Man, Economy, and Liberty. These and other materials are available at Hoppe’s website.

Bibliography, supporters of Hoppe::  argumentation ethics::

Block, 2004, 2011; Gordon, 1988; Kinsella, 1996, 2002; Meng, 2002; Rothbard, 1988, Van Dun, 2009.

Block, Walter E. 2004. “Are Alienability and the Apriori of Argument Logically Incompatible?” Dialogue, Vol. 1, No. 1; http://www.uni-svishtov.bg/dialog/2004/256gord6.pdf

Block, Walter E. 2011. “Rejoinder to Murphy and Callahan on Hoppe’s Argumentation Ethics” Journal of Libertarian Studies; Vol. 22, pp. 631–639; http://mises.org/journals/jls/22_1/22_1_31.pdf

Eabrasu, Marian. 2009.  “A Reply to the Current Critiques Formulated Against Hoppe’s Argumentation Ethics,” Libertarian Papers. Vol. I, No. 1; http://libertarianpapers.org/2009/20-eabrasu-critiques-argumentation-ethics/

Gordon, David. 1988. “Radical & Quasi-Kantian.” Liberty (November): 46–47; http://www.libertyunbound.com/sites/files/printarchive/Liberty_Magazine_November_1988.pdf

Kinsella, Stephan. 1996. “New Rationalist Directions in Libertarian Rights Theory.” Journal of Libertarian Studies 12 (12): 323–38.

Kinsella, N. Stephan. 2002 [2011]. “Defending Argumentation Ethics: Reply to Murphy & Callahan,” Anti-state.com, Sept. 19 [July 2];

http://www.anti-state.com/article.php?article_id=312

Kinsella, Stephan N. 2011. “Argumentation Ethics and Liberty: A Concise Guide.” May 27; http://mises.org/daily/5322/

Meng, Jude Chua Soo. 2002. “Hopp(e)ing Onto New Ground: A Rothbardian Proposal for Thomistic Natural Law as the Basis for Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s Praxeological Defense of Private Property.” Working paper, http://www.mises.org/journals/scholar/meng.pdf

Rothbard, Murray. 1988. “Beyond Is and Ought.” Liberty (November): 44–45; http://mises.org/daily/4629/Beyond-Is-and-Ought;

http://www.libertyunbound.com/sites/files/printarchive/Liberty_Magazine_November_1988.pdf

Van Dun, Frank. 2009. “Argumentation Ethics and The Philosophy of Freedom.”

Libertarian Papers, No. 19;

http://libertarianpapers.org/2009/19-van-dun-argumentation-ethics/

Con:

Friedman, 1988; Murphy and Callahan, 2006; Steele, 1988; Yeager, 1988.

Friedman, David. 1988. “The Trouble with Hoppe: Some Brief Comments on Hoppe’s Justification of the Private Property Ethic.” Liberty, 2.2, November, 53–54.; http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Libertarian/On_Hoppe.html;

http://www.libertyunbound.com/sites/files/printarchive/Liberty_Magazine_November_1988.pdf

Murphy, Robert P. and Gene Callahan. 2006. “Hans-Hermann Hoppe’s Argumentation Ethics: A Critique.” The Journal of Libertarian Studies. Vol.

20, No. 2, Spring, pp. 53-64;

http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/20_2/20_2_3.pdf

Steele, David Ramsay. 1988. “One Muddle After Another.” Liberty (November):

45–46;

http://www.libertyunbound.com/sites/files/printarchive/Liberty_Magazine_November_1988.pdf

Hoppe, Hans-Hermann [Conza88]. (2011, September 22). The A priori of Argumention [Video file]. Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx7XUuPrbZo

Hoppe, Hans-Hermann [Property and Freedom Society]. (2016, October 8). Hans Hermann Hoppe – Ethics of Argumentation (PFS 2016) [Video file]. Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8UE3QAV8JM

Kinsella, Stephan. 2011. “Argumentation Ethics and Liberty: A Concise  Guide.” May 27; https://mises.org/library/argumentation-ethics-and-liberty-concise-guide

Kinsella, Stephan 2013. “KOL018 | “Libertarian Legal Theory: Property, Conflict, and Society: Lecture 1: Libertarian Basics: Rights and Law” (Mises Academy, 2011).” February 20; http://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol018-libertarian-legal-theory-property-conflict-and-society-lecture-1-libertarian-basics-rights-and-law-mises-academy-2011/

Kinsella, Stephan. 2014. “KOL153 | “The Social Theory of Hoppe: Lecture 1:

Property Foundations” (Mises Academy, 2011).” October 16; http://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol153-the-social-theory-of-hoppe-lecture-1-mises-academy-2011/

Kinsella, Stephan. 2015. ““Argumentation Ethics and Liberty: A Concise  Guide” (2011) and Supplemental Resources.” January 1; http://www.stephankinsella.com/2015/01/argumentation-ethics-and-liberty-a-concise-guide-2011/

Kinsella, Stephan. 2015. “Hoppe’s Argumentation Ethics and Its Critics.”

August 11;

http://www.stephankinsella.com/2015/08/hoppes-argumentation-ethics-and-its-critics/

Kinsella, Stephan. 2016. “The Genesis of Estoppel: My Libertarian Rights Theory.” March 22; http://www.stephankinsella.com/2016/03/the-genesis-of-estoppel-my-libertarian-rights-theory/

Best regards,

Walter

From: P

Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 3:58 PM

To: wblock@loyno.edu

Subject: Bodily rights vs property rights

Dear Walter,

For non-libertarians, private property rights as the first port of call for legal dilemmas, e.g in considering abortion, is not reflexive as it is for libertarians. They instead prefer to lean on private property independent rights, such as bodily integrity, autonomy, sovereignty, etc, divorced from ideas such as private property trespass, to use the abortion case.

Do you think that there is any argument to make that shows bodily rights must necessarily stem from private property rights, or at least are devalued by violations of private property rights, such as taxation?

I ask because otherwise libertarian legal theory can certainly become more and more elegant and coherent, but seems like it will be limited in its adoption if it can’t make a case against other theories.

Kind regards, P

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