Conversations with Tim McGraw About Austro-libertarianism and Much More

Letter 1

From: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:57 PM

To: wblock@loyno.edu

Subject: Murray Rothbard on Anarchy vs. Mini-archy

Dear Walter, January 19th, 2021

I apologize for using the large font, but my eyesight isn’t so good anymore. I read your last reply to me about DC being destroyed with some confusion. You did see my point about the “10 righteous men.” But then you mention the Libertarian Party members and think tanks in DC as if they should be spared.

You said years ago that Murray Rothbard convinced you that anarchy was the only way to go. You can’t have a government and a free society. Have you changed your mind?

Just now I watched about 15 minutes of a puff piece about Kamala Harris (raised in Oakland, CA) put out by a SF TV station. Truly pathetic it was. And then I watched about 15 minutes of Trump’s farewell speech. Truly pathetic it was.

Find me ten righteous men in politics and I’ll believe in governments. I doubt if you’ll find them. Rothbard was right. The whole damned idea of government is evil and wrong.

Tell your friends in DC to get the hell outta there.

Sorry about Drew Brees and the Saints.

All the best,

Tim McGraw

Healdsburg, CA

Dear Tim:

I do NOT believe that a little government is okay. But I believe that many limited government libertarians are righteous people. As are apolitical people who live in WDC. And, I don’t think I’ve just contradicted myself.

Best regards,

Walter

From: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 4:17 PM

To: wblock@loyno.edu

Subject: Re: Murray Rothbard on Anarchy vs. Mini-archy

Dear Walter,

Okay, that’s three righteous men, and you are a righteous man. But you are the one who wants to privatize everything. You and Rothbard are the ones who convinced me that even a little government is impossible in a free society. Privatize everything.

If you now believe that a little government is okay, then I misunderstood your position.

All the best,

Tim

—–Original Message—–

From: Walter Block <wblock@loyno.edu>

To: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2021 1:40 pm

Subject: RE: Murray Rothbard on Anarchy vs. Mini-archy

Dear Tim:

Non anarchists include Ron Paul, Andrew Napolitano, Bob Nozick. I think they are very righteous.

Best regards,

Walter

Letter 2

Dear Tim:

The LP has its office there. There are lots of libertarian think tanks there. But, I get your point.

Best regards,

Walter

From: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 12:55 PM

To: wblock@loyno.edu

Subject: Re: A Flawed Impeachment for “Incitement”

Dear Walter,

Find ten righteous people in DC and it will be spared.

Tim

“In the Genesis account, God reveals to Abraham that Sodom and Gomorrah are to be destroyed for their grave sins(18:20). Abraham pleads for the lives of any righteous people living there, especially the lives of his nephew, Lot, and his family. God agrees to spare the cities if 10 righteous people can be found (18:23–32). Two angels are sent to Lot in Sodom but are met with a wicked mob who are then struck blind by the angelic guests (19:1–11). Finding only Lot and his family as righteous among the inhabitants, the angels warn Lot to quickly evacuate the city and to not look back. As they flee the destruction, Lot’s wife looks back upon the city and is turned into a pillar of salt (19:12–29).”

—–Original Message—–

From: Walter Block <wblock@loyno.edu>

To: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2021 8:31 am

Subject: RE: A Flawed Impeachment for “Incitement”

Dear Tim:

Lot’s of innocent people live in WDC.

Best regards,

Walter

From: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 12:52 AM

To: wblock@loyno.edu

Subject: RE: A Flawed Impeachment for “Incitement”

Hi Walter, January 14th, 2021

I just read your recent article posted on the Lew Rockwell site. Your arguments are sound, but I wonder why you give a shit? I wonder why my parents, who are your age, hasten to vote and fill out their census forms. Even Ron Paul still believes in the system. I suppose it is a generational thing. You all went through the Depression and WWII when America was united and the government was still kinda honest.

For us baby boomer Libertarians the Vietnam War draft lottery convinced us very quickly that DC and government in general was completely full of shit.

Walter, I go to bed every night praying that DC is blown up and sent to Hell. Do not pass “GO”. Do not collect 100 trillion dollars.

I wonder what the generations coming up behind us will do?

Here in Healdsburg, CA we are in Day  # 310 or so of this damned lockdown. My wife and I are going a bit mad. No bars. No restaurants. No church. No spas. No hotels. No haircuts. No government schools, though the Catholic school across the street is open. Oh, those poor kids wearing masks. That is a SIN, Walter. God will not forgive the authorities for masking his children.

But yeah, my wife and I are going nuts.

Hope you are doing okay in New Orleans.

Tim McGraw

Healdsburg, CA

PS: I’ll attach a photo my friend Patrick took in Hollywood two days ago as he drove by Ripley’s Believe it or Not. The dinosaur on the roof is wearing a mask and the windows are boarded up. That’s California. Even Godzilla must comply.

TJM

Letter 3

Dear Tim:

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this.

Best regards,

Walter

From: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 2:48 AM

To: wblock@loyno.edu

Subject: RE: Open Letter to Libertarians in Georgia

Hi Walter,

Oh, Walter; I disagree with your latest column on the Lew Rockwell site. I don’t disagree with your right to publish it or say it, but I think your arguments are weak. The Empire is bankrupt and going down the toilet. Does it really matter who is in that DC cesspool? The 74 million Americans who voted for Trump are on the edge of open rebellion.

Let it come. The Republic is dead. The USA needs to be broken up into much smaller nations. This house is divided against itself. Humpty Dumpty fell off the wall.

Attorney Lin Wood who is prosecuting the case of voter fraud in Georgia told the voters to NOT vote for the two GOP senatorial candidates. Where were these two RINOs when the election was stolen from Trump? And I don’t support Trump, but I know when a guy has been stabbed in the back.

The time for words is ending. Voting is a joke. When the people get hungry, all hell is going to break loose. Or maybe people will just give up and die? Is that the elite’s plan?

I remember a man once wrote, “A suicide doesn’t just kill himself. He kills everybody.”

Sometimes I think the elites are committing suicide. These are not happy people.

Get ready, Walter. Protect yourself and your family.

All the best,

Tim

Letter 4

Dear Tim:

Libertarians support only negative rights. The so called right to breathe freely is a positive right. Libertarians don’t support that. When you are underwater, or on Mars, you can’t breathe freely. Are your rights then necessarily violated. No.

Best regards,

Walter

From: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020 2:46 AM

To: wblock@loyno.edu

Subject: Does the owner of a business have the authority to force a customer to wear a mask to enter his property?

Dear Walter, Dec. 3, 2020

Many Libertarians argue that a business owner can demand that a person entering their business (store, plane, uber car, etc.) wear a mask. The Libertarians argue that the business owner can demand that the customer wear a shirt, shoes, underwear, etc. so why not a mask?

Would these Libertarians argue that the business owner can demand that the person entering their business smoke a cigarette?

We are talking about the right of a human being to breathe freely. This right, imo, trumps any private property rights of the business owners.

What do you think?

Tim McGraw

Healdsburg, CA

Letter 5

Dear Tim:

I’m sorry to learn of your personal travails.

Jury duty is like a military draft. There’s nothing in the libertarian philosophy, in my view, that says you are obligated to cooperate with that institution. Ditto for voting.

Best regards,

Walter

From: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 2:27 AM

To: wblock@loyno.edu

Subject: Hi Walter

Hi Walter, 11/9/20

Sorry I haven’t written to you personally for awhile. Out here in Purple Tier Covid Sonoma County Land things are pretty much all shit all the time. Did I tell you the story about the house painter who saw my wife approaching unmasked? The painter put an empty paint bucket over his head. Oh, the fear….

The weather has turned cold, finally. A high of 52F today and freezing temps at night. Our cat, Buddy, stays in the house now at night. Winter is short here, but very cold in our uninsulated homes. No doubt like yours in New Orleans.

My wife turns 67 tomorrow. I’ll be 69 in February. I know you are much older (much older LOL). My Mom and Dad are 88 and living in a senior center in St. Louis near my brother’s house. I’ll probably never see them again. No more golf trips to Las Vegas. Las Vegas is dead.

My son is in Phoenix. Doubt if I’ll see him again. My daughter is in Seattle. Haven’t talked to her in  years. We don’t get along.

How are you doing at Loyola? Have the barbarians burned down your office yet? Is your family okay? Did the hurricane destroy Bourbon Street?

You are older than I. You went through WWII, yes? So how do you handle the insanity?

Okay, here is a Libertarian question for you:

I just wrote to the Sonoma County Jurors office in the “Hall of Justice”, sic, in Santa Rosa asking that my name be removed from the rolls of potential jurors. I also wrote to the Sonoma County Registrar of Voters and had my name removed from the voter rolls.

My question to you is:

If the Sonoma County “Justice” Jurors Office demands my presence as a juror, do I have to go? Last time I resisted they fined me $400. I paid in cash.

What say you, Dr. Block? Can we legally opt out of the system? Or are we slaves even unto death?

Tim McGraw

Healdsburg, CA

Letter 6

Dear Tim:

I think the libertarian position on this is that the owner of the boat decides, based on any contractual arrangement he made with his passengers

Best regards,

Walter

From: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 11:38 PM

To: wblock@loyno.edu

Subject: Fwd: Seen and Unseen of Covid-19: Yourself

Hi Walter,

What is the Libertarian position on death? The Titanic is sinking and only 1/3 of the ship’s company will survive. Who gets to survive? Who gets to die?

Just like with Covid-19. Do the elderly get to live as the children suffer and even die from suicide?

What is the Libertarian position on who gets to live in the tribe/society/town when Mr. Dead comes to call?

Is it still “Women and children first.” into the life boats?

Tim McGraw

Healdsburg, CA

—–Original Message—–

From: Tim McGraw <mcgrawtim123@aol.com>

To: woods@mises.org <woods@mises.org>

Sent: Thu, Oct 29, 2020 9:32 pm

Subject: RE: Seen and Unseen of Covid-19: Yourself

“This is the intellectual level of the conversation [around covid-19]: You just want people do die.” Yourself

Hi Tom,

Your opening sentence says it all. Of course people do want people to die. The people want other people to die by the millions. The people have been killing each other in the millions for thousands of years. Though in the past century the death total has skyrocketed.

So why not just say, “So what if Covid-19 kills every old person in a nursing home. I want my haircut and a drink at the pub. They had their time. Now it is mine. Fuck ’em!”

What is wrong with saying that bare statement?

What is the difference in the above statement from Curtis Lemay’s:

There are no innocent civilians, so it doesn’t bother me so much to be killing innocent bystanders.

Curtis LeMay

I mean really, what is the difference?

You explain it to me, Tom.

Tim McGraw

Healdsburg, CA

The Seen and Unseen of Covid-19 by Tom Woods

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2:05 am on February 22, 2021