The US markets
ended lower for the second session yesterday on the back of mixed
global cues and disturbing job loss data. Does this mean were
still not out of the woods? Marc Faber, Editor and Publisher of
the Gloom, Boom & Doom Report feels nothing has been solved
in the US in the last 69 months and that a big economic crisis
was still to be seen ahead. The policy makers in the US, are
still in-charge and if you look at what has happened in the US over
the last 69 months, nothing has been solved. It has been postponed
through fiscal and monetary measures, precisely the measures that
brought about the crisis in the first place. So enjoy your ride
in asset classes as long as it lasts but I think we are seeding
the next crisis and it may happen in the next three months, maybe
tomorrow, maybe five years, maybe only in 10 years but I think the
big crisis is still ahead of us. He said that the markets
were overbought and that the economic news was still not good.
Here is
a verbatim transcript of the exclusive interview with Marc Faber
on CNBC-TV18. Also watch the accompanying
video.
Q: There
have been stray concerns on where the market might be headed, and
whether things are approaching a bubble like proportion, especially
in the equity market. What do you feel?
A: Basically,
we have had huge fiscal stimulus packages and we had quantitative
easing in basically all countries around the world. So asset prices
have recovered strongly after March 6 this year, with stocks rising,
commodity prices rising and the dollar weakening again and each
time the dollar weakens it is kind of a symptom of some inflation
in the system and excess liquidity building up. What we have is
large cash positions around the world and zero interest rates and
also the policy by the Fed to keep the matter very low level for
a very long time as was the case of 2001. With this in mind, money
goes out of cash balances into something, either consumption or
into some kind of assets like equities or commodities or bonds or
art or real estate.
Q. While
the rally has been intact, there seems to be one concern which is
that interest rates will soon start moving higher and that in turn
will start sucking the liquidity out or the easy liquidity out.
Is that a real fear for the market?
A: I don't
think so. I think we have to distinguish between short-term interest
rates and long-term interest rates. Long-term interest rates, the
Federal Reserve does not really control them in the long run. Temporarily
they can somewhat control them through quantitative easing and through
the purchases of 10-year bonds, 7-year bonds, 30-year bonds but
what they control are the short-term interest rates in other words,
the Fed fund rates. Reading through the literature and through the
speeches that are being given by Mr Ben Bernanke, my impression
is that the short-term interest rates will stay low for a very long
time. In America the fiscal deficit this year will be around USD
2 trillion and I do not think they can cut the fiscal deficit next
year because if they cut it, it will have a negative impact on the
economy. So I rather think that the fiscal deficit will stay at
this level or in my opinion actually even increase. That will lead
the Fed to keep interest rates artificially low because should they
increase short-term rates meaningfully then the cost of servicing
the government debt in the US will escalate substantially. So I
think as far as the eye can see, monetary policies in the US will
stay expansionary.
Q. Will
talk about sectors and markets in specific in a bit but what about
the dollar? There has been almost a straight line correlation between
the way emerging markets have moved and the way the dollar has been
weakening. Do you sense that is going to snap back soon?
A: If I look
around the world and this is frequently missed in the inflation-deflation
debate the US current account deficit, growing from USD 150
billion to USD 800 billion between 1998 and 2007 flushed the world
with liquidity and led to essential inflation in emerging economies,
in particular asset inflation. We now have flats in Hong Kong, in
other words condominiums selling for up to USD 9000 a square feet.
In America, price levels compared to the price levels in some of
the Asian cities is actually now quite low. So I think that the
US dollar is no longer overvalued for the time being and the sentiment
about the US dollar is so negative that we could have a rebound
in the dollar for a couple of months and that would indicate some
tightening of global liquidity and be bad for asset markets as was
the case in 2008 when the US dollar rebounded, all asset market
went down.