Letter 1
From: M C <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2020 4:58 PM
To: walter block <[email protected]>
Subject: Oklahoma supreme court decision
Do you have any links or info on a rothbardian approach to the topic of jurisdiction? For example what happened today with the supreme court. Apparently a rape case went to trial and the defense was oklahoma lacked proper jurisdiction. Never thought about this from a libertarian perspective. Also your quick thoughts or opinion would be enlightening and informative. Thanks!
Off the cuff I think if a rape occurs it wouldnt matter who has jurisdiction but that might be wrong from a pure legal perspective. Not a lawyer haha. Take care.
Letter 2
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 8:12 PM Walter Block <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Mike:
I think the issue here is not really the (alleged??) rape; that’s just the specific case. The real issue is, who has sovereignty over Eastern Oklahoma. From an anarcho-capitalist Rothbardian point of view, it would be neither the Indian tribe, nor the government of the state of Oklahoma nor the US govt. The jurisdication would be, rather, a private defense agency in the area.
Here’s how I rank the jurisdictional priority
a. a private defense agency in the area.
b. a private defense agency in the area.
c.Oklahoma
d.the US
I pick Oklahoma over the US on grounds of decentralization. I choose the tribe over either level of government because at least so far, they have violated rights far less than these other two
Best regards,
Walter
Letter 3
From: M C <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2020 7:15 PM
To: Walter Block <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Oklahoma supreme court decision
Interesting. So what would happen if, say, a private defense agency catches a robber in the act, but the victim isn’t a customer. I’d imagine courts would still hear the case and toss out “jurisdiction?”
Letter 4
Dear Mike:
There’s a large literature on how private courts, defense agencies, would operate.
You can start with this:
Murphy, Robert P. 2013. “Where Are the Rothbardian Defense Agencies?” December 14; http://141.164.71.80/exchange/
Best regards,
Walter
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