It Is Ok To Give Money to the State Under Duress; Just Don’t Donate Any to Them

Dear B: I don’t like taxation, but I discuss it all the time. See below for my publications defending the right of libertarians to take a public salary. Short summary: it is ok to take money from government; it is not ok to donate any money to them, over and above what is coerced from you by them. It is also ok to use their museums, parks, fiat currency, schools. They are a criminal gang. In the view of Rothbard (1973, p. 49): “if you wish to know how libertarians regard the State and any of its acts, simply think of the State as a criminal band, and all of the libertarian attitudes will logically fall into place.”
Rothbard, Murray N. 1973. For a New Liberty, Macmillan, New York;

—–Original Message—–
From: B
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 1:13 PM
Subject: LRC Blog – LewRockwell
Dear professor Block-

In your blog post on LRC today you answered a question from a reader as to whether a libertarian has a right to a public salary.

In our last very congenial correspondence you said you didn’t like discussing taxes because you find it uncomfortable, as an e capitalist.
Yet in your reply you quote the mantra that taxation is theft.

But in the case of federal wages in particular, since you do not wish to engage in what I have been saying, the mantra is incorrect.

Think of paying taxes on a federal salary as merely a condition of employment. It is not theft because you do not have a right to a federal job. It is a privilege to work for the feds. Under the rule of sovereignty, the feds can Tax that which they have created, in this case a job.
Of course any private employer could do the same, but market forces usually preclude extra fees for employment.

This is why my friend P for fifteen years has been able to get many many millions in complete refunds for those who challenge the information returns issued by most private employer s.

Once challenged in the administrative process, the feds must prove a tax liability. From their own knowledge, or form witnesses.

The only way the federal government has personal knowledge of your receipts is from their own payroll records.

Your private employer thinks he is simply obeying the law, and is not aware, nor can he testify, to the fact that the information return he issued you is in fact an affidavit. Alleging he disbursed. Taxable income, not in any way wages as defined in the code.

I am writing you by finger typing so there will be small errors. I apologize.

I understand the libertarian conservative establishment does not want to rethink this issue, and wants to ignore me.

But with respect to the so called income tax, the theft lies not in the tax itself, but the way it has been coercively collected since WW 2

Reno NV

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Block, 1972, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009A, 2009B, 2010, 2011A, 2011B, 2011C, 2011D, 2016; Block and Arakaky, 2008, Block and Barnett, 2008, D’Amico and Block, 2007

Block, Walter E. 1972. “The Polish Ham Question.” The Libertarian Forum. June-July, Vol. 4, No. 6-7, p. 5;;;

Block, Walter E. 2002. “Accepting Government Subsidies,” Fraser Forum, February, p. 27;

Block, Walter E. 2004. “Radical Libertarianism: Applying Libertarian Principles to Dealing with the Unjust Government, Part I” Reason Papers, Vol. 27, Fall, pp. 117-133;

Block, Walter E. 2006. “Radical Libertarianism: Applying Libertarian Principles to Dealing with the Unjust Government, Part II” Reason Papers, Vol. 28, Spring, pp. 85-109;;;; (death penalty justified, net taxpayer, ruling class analysis p. 87)

Block, Walter E. 2007. “Ron Paul and Matching Funds,” October 1;

Block, Walter E. 2008. “Replies to readers” September 23; (libertarians hypocrites for using public school?)

Block, Walter E. 2009A. “Libertarian punishment theory: working for, and donating to, the state” Libertarian Papers, Vol. 1;

Block, Walter E. 2009B. “Toward a Libertarian Theory of Guilt and Punishment for the Crime of Statism” in Hulsmann, Jorg Guido and Stephan Kinsella, eds., Property, Freedom and Society: Essays in Honor of Hans-Hermann Hoppe, Auburn, AL: Ludwig von Mises Institute, pp. 137-148;

Block, Walter E. 2010. “You are a rotten kid (rent control and libertarianism),” February 27;

Block, Walter E. 2011A. “It’s Ayn Rand Bashing Time, Once Again.” February 18;
Block, Walter E. 2011B. “May a Libertarian Take Money From the Government?” March 11;;
Block, Walter E. 2011C. “Toward a Libertarian Theory of Guilt and Punishment for the Crime of Statism,” Journal of Libertarian Studies, Vol. 22; pp. 665-675;

Block, Walter E. 2011D. “Hoppe, Kinsella and Rothbard II on Immigration: A Critique.” Journal of Libertarian Studies; Vol. 22, pp. 593–623;

Block, Walter E. 2016. “Is It Compatible With Libertarianism to be a Banker? Yes!” September 29;

Block, Walter E. and Chris Arakaky. 2008. “Taking Government Money for Grad School?” May 23;

Block, Walter E. and William Barnett II. 2008. “Continuums” Journal Etica e Politica / Ethics & Politics, Vol. 1, pp. 151-166 June;;

D’Amico, Dan and Walter E. Block. 2007. “A Legal and Economic Analysis of Graffiti” Humanomics Vol. 23, No. 1, pp. 29-38;;;


4:32 pm on December 9, 2018