Invictus Debate; Disagreements With Rothbard

From: S
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 7:26 PM
To: walterblock@business.loyno.edu
Subject: disagreements with Rothbard

Hello Mr Walter Block, my name is S. I live in Argentina and i love your ideas i just listen to your wonderful debate with mr Invictus , and you mention some articles that enunciate the divergences between you and mr Rothbard (You mention for example the agreement of voluntary slavery) I would love to read the other articles that you mention in the Q&A that develop the other point you and Rothbard disagree. when you have some time could you send me the articles you mention? If you can’t, I still love you Mighty Block . I greatly thank you for your beautiful work.

Dear S: Thanks for your kind words.

Let me just say, before I send you that material which contains my disagreements with Murray Rothbard, my friend and mentor, that I revere this man. He was a genius. Possibly, probably, in all of these disagreements I had with him, he was correct, and I was wrong. I still can’t see my way clear to that conclusion, but I’m open to having my errors being pointed out, in this or indeed any other regard. Here is the material you requested:

Block, 1998, 2003, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014; Barnett and Block, 2005, 2005-2006, 2006A, 2006B, 2007; Block, Barnett and Salerno, 2006; Block and Callahan, 2003; Block, Klein and Hansen, 2007; Block, Futerman and Farber, 2016; Futerman, Farber and Block, 2016.

Block, Walter E. 1998. “A Libertarian Case for Free Immigration,” Journal of Libertarian Studies: An Interdisciplinary Review, Vol. 13, No. 2, summer, pp. 167-186; http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/13_2/13_2_4.pdf

Block, Walter E. 2003. “Toward a Libertarian Theory of Inalienability: A Critique of Rothbard, Barnett, Gordon, Smith, Kinsella and Epstein,” Journal of Libertarian Studies, Vol.17, No. 2, Spring, pp. 39-85; http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/17_2/17_2_3.pdf

Block, Walter E. 2007. “A Libertarian War in Afghanistan?” July 30; https://archive.lewrockwell.com/block/block80.html

Block, Walter E. 2009. “Libertarian punishment theory: working for, and donating to, the state” Libertarian Papers, Vol. 1; http://libertarianpapers.org/2009/17-libertarian-punishment-theory-working-for-and-donating-to-the-state/; http://libertarianpapers.org/2009/17-libertarian-punishment-theory-working-for-and-donating-to-the-state/#comments

Block, Walter E. 2011. “Hoppe, Kinsella and Rothbard II on Immigration: A Critique.” Journal of Libertarian Studies; Vol. 22, pp. 593–623; http://mises.org/journals/jls/22_1/22_1_29.pdf

Block, Walter E. 2011. “The Human Body Shield” Journal of Libertarian Studies; Vol. 22 , pp. 625-630; http://mises.org/journals/jls/22_1/22_1_30.pdf

Block, Walter E. 2014. August 5. Interview with Daniel Rothschild: a critique of fractional reserve banking and of Murray N. Rothbard’s analysis of Israeli land claims; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4A5hpzYb94.

Barnett, William II and Walter E. Block. 2005. “Money: Capital Good, Consumers’ Good, or (Media of) Exchange Good?” Review of Austrian Economics. 18 (2): 179-194;
http://www.gmu.edu/rae/archives/VOL18_2_2005/4_Barnett.pdf; http://www.academia.edu/1359987/Money_Capital_Good_Consumers_Good_or_Media_of_Exchange_Good

Barnett, William II, and Walter E. Block. 2005-2006. “Mises, Rothbard and Salerno on Costs.” Corporate Ownership & Control, Winter, Vol. 3, No. 2, pp. 204-206

Barnett, William II, and Walter E. Block. 2006A “Rothbard on V shaped average and
total cost curves.” Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics, Vol. 9, No. 3, Fall, pp. 61-66; http://mises.org/journals/qjae/pdf/qjae9_3_4.pdf

Barnett, William II and Walter E. Block. 2006B. “On Hayekian Triangles.” Procesos De Mercado: Revista Europea De Economia Politica; Vol. III, No. 2, Fall, pp. 39-141; http://tinyurl.com/2zkvj7; http://mises.org/journals/scholar/block18.pdf; http://www.academia.edu/1359916/On_Hayekian_Triangles

Barnett, William II and Walter E. Block. 2007. “Saving and Investment: A Praxeological Approach.” New Perspectives on Political Economy, Vol. 3, No. 2, pp. 129 – 138;
http://pcpe.libinst.cz/nppe/3_2/nppe3_2_1.pdf; http://141.164.133.3/exchange/walterblock/Inbox/Re%20query.EML/nppe3_2_block.pdf/C58EA28C-18C0-4a97-9AF2-036E93DDAFB3/nppe3_2_block.pdf?attach=1; http://www.academia.edu/1359832/Saving_and_Investment_A_Praxeological_Approach
no future goods (fn 16)

Block, Walter E., William Barnett II and Joseph Salerno. 2006. “Relationship between wealth or income and time preference is empirical, not apodictic: critique of Rothbard and Hoppe,” Review of Austrian Economics, Vol. 19, No. 2, pp. 69-80; http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s11138-006-6094-8; http://www.gmu.edu/rae/archives/VOL19_1_2006/4-Block_Barnett_Salerno.pdf

Block, Walter E. and Gene Callahan. 2003. “Is There A Right to Immigration? A Libertarian Perspective,” Human Rights Review, Vol. 5, No. 1, October-December, pp. 46-71;
http://www.walterblock.com/publications/block-callahan_right-immigrate-2003.pdf

Block, Walter E., Peter Klein and Per Henrik Hansen. 2007. “The Division of Labor under Homogeneity: A Critique of Mises and Rothbard” The American Journal of Economics and Sociology, April Vol. 66 Issue 2, pp. 457-464; http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/toc/ajes/66/2; http://141.164.133.3/exchange/walterblock/Inbox/Re:%20link_x003F_-2.EML/1_multipart_xF8FF_2_j.1536-7150.2007.00520.pdf/C58EA28C-18C0-4a97-9AF2-036E93DDAFB3/j.1536-7150.2007.00520.pdf?attach=1
Block, Walter E., Alan G. Futerman and Rafi Farber. 2016. “A Libertarian Approach to the Legal Status of the State of Israel.” Indonesian Journal of International and Comparative Law. Vol. 3, Issue, 2, June, pp. 435-553; (a critique of Murray Rothbard)
https://thejewishlibertarian.com/tag/the-legal-status-of-the-state-of-israel/ https://thejewishlibertarian.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/israel-rothbard-defense.pdf https://thejewishlibertarian.com/israel-vs-rothbard/

Futerman, Alan, Rafi Farber and Walter E. Block. 2016. “The Libertarian Case for Israel.” October 13; The Forward; http://forward.com/scribe/351957/tk-tk/

February 11, 2017. Walter Block’s Opponent: Augustus Invictus
7pm Holiday Inn 1350 S Dixie Hwy Coral Gables, Fl 33134
Topic: Libertarianism Yay or Nay
Subtopics:
Is Taxation Theft (Invictus says no; Block says yes)
Privatize everything (Invictus says no; Block says yes)
Privatize highways (Invictus says no; Block says yes)
Libertarian Nuremberg trials (Invictus opposes; Block favors)
Augustus Invictus:

Walter Block vs. Augustus Invictus Live In Miami NOW

Posted by Liberty Hangout on Saturday, February 11, 2017


February 11, 2017. Miami, Florida, Walter E. Block debates Augustus Sol Invictus [mailto:augustusinvictus@gmail.com]; Augustus Sol Invictus topic: Libertarianism Yay or Nay? I want to argue against some of the sacred cows of libertarianism. And I think it’s safe to say that they are sacred cows BECAUSE of Block, Rothbard, and company – and so Professor Block would be the *perfect* person to promote these positions – and the perfect person, me, to argue against on these positions.
1. ‘Taxation is Theft.’ I will make the case that taxation is not theft and is necessary for a functioning government. I will likely rely on Hobbes for this argument.
2. The nature of law. Block and many Libertarians seem to be under the impression that law is a voluntary, consensual agreement as to the rules that would benefit society. I am of the belief that law is a rule issued by the sovereign and backed by the threat of force. This is the position of John Austin, a legal philosopher, whose position is my own.
3. The Nuremberg Trials. This one I could argue in one of two ways: (A) The Nuremberg Trials, i.e., the trial of the Nazi officer’s, were a farce and a grave injustice that has resulted in the atrocities of the present global order. (B) Block’s conception of a type of ‘Libertarian Nuremberg Trial’ for culpable government employees is an equally bad idea.
4. ‘Privatization of everything.’ I am in opposition to this concept at my very core. This is why I cannot be an AnCap, and it is why I meet so much resistance in libertarian circles.
5. Highway privatization. A minor subject compared to the other four, but certainly one that would stir controversy, as this is, again, one of the sacred cows of libertarianism.”

Two Debates in Florida in February


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