Gerald Celente on the Upcoming Seed Event and Why People Need To
Think for Themselves To Avoid a Replay of the 1930s
by Anthony Wile
The Daily Bell
by Anthony Wile: Robin
Koerner on Blue Republicans and Why Ron Paul Remains the Hope for
the US's Future
Forecasting trends since 1980, Mr. Gerald Celente is publisher of
Journal®, Founder/Director of the Trends
Research Institute® and author of the highly acclaimed and
best selling books, Trend
Tracking and Trends
2000 (Warner Books.) Using his unique perspectives on current
events forming future trends, Gerald Celente developed the Globalnomic®
methodology, which is used to identify, track, forecast and manage
trends. His on-time trend forecasts, vibrant style, articulate delivery
and vivid public presence makes him a favorite of major media. The
Trends Research Institute has earned its reputation as "today's
most trusted name in trends" for accurate and timely predictions.
On the geopolitical and economic fronts, Celente and The Trends
Research Institute are credited with predicting the collapse of
the Soviet Union, the last two economic recessions, the dot-com
meltdown, the 1997 Asian currency crisis, the 1987 world stock market
crash, increased terrorism against America, "Crusades 2000,"
the quagmire in Iraq ... before war began and much more.
Let's jump right in and ask you to comment on the Seed Event taking
place on Saturday, October 13, 2012 in Vancouver, British Columbia,
Canada (Seedevent.org). Tell
us about it. How are you directly involved?
The Seed people contacted me after hearing my interviews from various
other media. The Seed Event is very different from most of the presentations
that I give. What is interesting is this is the kind of audience
I relate to genuinely. The first book I ever worked on was called
Natural Healing, back in 1986. I also have an honorary doctorate
in complimentary medicine from the National University of Health
You identify with the audience?
The Seed Event to me is the closest to the ideal type of group that
I like to speak with because, by definition, people who attend are
people with open minds. My motto at the Trends Research Institute
and the Trend Journal is "Think for yourself." That was
passed on to me by my father.
So going back
to the upcoming Seed Event, it's a learning experience. You go there
with an open mind, wanting to obtain information that is going to
improve your life, rather than going to an event so you can hear
people reinforce your ideologies and reinforce what you already
know. I was very much involved in the first "New Age"
movement, which began in the '70s, that went through to the mid-'90s.
I lived in Reinbeck, where the Omega Institute is located. I began
meditating back in the early '80s and took Tai Chi and practiced
close combat for 25 years. So I have broad interests in areas of
New Age Philosophy.
Age" was gaining momentum but what changed it was when Bill
Clinton and Al Gore got elected. And I wrote this in my book, Trends
2000, in 1996. They were Baby Boomers, but they were no more than
a continuation of the older Establishment regime and even worse.
They codified what previous administrations couldn't ... like NAFTA
and other legislation that took more rights away from people and
That's what really killed the "New Age" movement?
For a time. Now we're going into a "New, New Age," as
I mention in the latest Trends Journal, because people are broke,
people are desperate, people are searching.
it ... Who are the great philosophers of the day? I'll tell you
who Jon Stewart, Colbert, Bill Maher ... CLOWNS have become
the philosophers ... two-bit clowns. So there's this huge vacuum
and people are searching for the truth. And what Seed is ... you
go to this event to help find the truth and if you are awake and
aware you find out the truth that is within you.
You're speaking on "The Future of Life As We Know It
Environment, Economy, Globalization." Can you give us a bit
of a summary?
Everyone is looking to the future but most people featured in the
mainstream media are bringing more of the same. The future is dim
and people have become walking zombies. You look at who the big
producers are today in Hollywood. They are comic book freaks. Spielberg,
a comic book freak. He'll tell you. And what does he produce? Comic
book crap. Batman. Comic book freaks.
The men have
not grown up in America. They're little boys. The people who want
to progress, and that's what's going to happen, will go to the Seed
Event. People there are searching for a future that's richer than
what's now and that has integrity built into it as part of the DNA.
Okay. Let's focus a bit more on The Trends Research Institute you
founded. What are the major trends occupying you right now?
Right now the major trends that are occupying me are the American
election, the European debt crisis, the Syrian war and the push
by America, Israel and NATO for expanding war in Syria and Iran.
Time for class warfare, baby! People are losing it. They're losing
it in Greece. They're losing it in Spain. They're losing it in Egypt
when I was 18 years old. I went to see the movie, In
Cold Blood by Truman Capote. It was these two guys who were
terrorizing this farm family and they were overdosing on aspirin,
if I remember. That's an everyday occurrence now. How many people
get blown away everyday? It's a common occurrence now. I read about
it all the time. Guy kills his ex-wife and her boyfriend and the
mother. That's today's news. It's happening everywhere. Nothing
is going to change until the individual changes and that is what
Seed Event is about. There is no leader to lead you. You're the
leader; you create your future. Why would you let anybody else do
it for you?
Speaking of leadership, let's turn to politics, of which you are
not a fan. Nonetheless, you are skilled in political analysis. What's
happened to Dr. Ron Paul's campaign?
He lacked the fire and passion. I said this when it was going on,
that he would be marginalized at the debates. He would talk over
the audience's head and he turned off a very large potential audience.
For the record, I was asked to go meet Dr. Paul when the campaign
started. I declined. Look, you can't have it both ways. He didn't
stand up and fight hard enough to gain his position.
Just to give
you a little background, I began running political campaigns in
Westchester County, the most affluent county in the United States,
back in the '70s. I was the assistant to the secretary of the New
York Senate and I taught American politics and campaign technology
at St. John's University. So I know a thing or two about running
a campaign. Here's the truth: He let his core constituency down.
They were fighting harder than he was. He lacked the passion.
What do you think of Rand Paul? Is he politically ambitious?
Most politicians are ambitious. Dwight D. Eisenhower said any man
or any person that wants to become president is either an egomaniac
or a crazy person, or something to that effect and that no one should
run for office, they should be chosen. And of all the presidents,
by the way, he's the only one I really, really respect. So to answer
your question, yes, he's ambitious. He will keep running for office.
This is a continuation of high school. Same people that you couldn't
stand who wanted to be class president and ran for student council
... they haven't stopped running.
What are your thoughts on President Barack Obama? Can he win?
Our forecast that we made on October 3, 2011 was yes, Obama will
win. The "teleprompter president." Politics is show business
for ugly people. And Obama is a better performer. You couldn't get
a more stiff, insincere, programmed, plastic person than Mitt Romney.
And Obama's going to continue to attack Romney.
You have to
understand the presidential reality show. Two candidates ... well,
who are the candidates? One is a guy that could have been a model
for Van Heusen shirts, using Vitalis in his hair. The other is the
savvy, scruffy guy from the streets who's made good. Who is the
better person to put on the presidential reality show? Van Heusen
shirts are almost dead and nobody uses Vitalis any more. So even
the best of the campaign strategists can't deal with the wrong image
at the wrong time and Romney is the wrong image at the wrong time.
Does it matter if Obama wins?
If Obama wins, it matters because to me, by their deeds you shall
know them. And Obama's deeds terrify me. Obama overthrew Libya.
Obama is instigating the war in Syria. Have you heard the words
"peace plan" attached to either Israel or Palestine since
Obama has been in office?
even make a pretense of it. To me it's disgusting what the world
is letting happen to the Palestinian people. And they are screaming
and yelling what Gaddafi was doing to his people and what Assad
is doing to his people!
up for the atrocities against the Palestinian people. I am sick
and tired of hearing the word "settlers." This is not
an old western where wagons are going across the empty plains ...
no, this is a land grab. And I'm allowed to say what I want against
America but I'm not allowed to say what I want against Israel? I'll
say what I want to say ... I'm not an anti-Semite. So where's it
going to go? It's going to get worse because Obama is slick!
Do conservatives believe in Mitt Romney?
Romney has a problem. Remember, a big part of the conservative's
block is evangelical. And this is one of the reasons we said Romney
was going to lose. When you look at the data when he ran the last
time, evangelicals don't dig Mormons. They have an image issue.
The other issue, of course, is Romney's hundred millions. People
don't relate to that. Obama, as we said when we made the forecast,
is going to play the born-again populist card and that's exactly
what he's doing. Obama is a brilliant politician but calling someone
a brilliant politician is like saying he's a skillful whore.
True enough. Freedom is eroding in America. Can we expect the trend
to continue or accelerate?
It is accelerating. Look at the latest information coming out about
the Department of Homeland Security gearing up to control public
disturbances at either the Republican or Democrat conventions and
also on Election Day. Look at all the surveillance equipment that's
been put in place. This is what I am saying.
This is a guy that passed the National Defense Authorization Act.
They can arrest a guy like me for being an enemy of the state without
any judge, jury or trial, without any charges. They can have the
military come and take me away. Look at what they are doing. Look
how they are training the military for militia duties. They repealed,
with the National Defense Authorization Act, the 1878 Posse Comitatus
Act, which prevented the military from taking over the police duties.
Next train to Auschwitz ...
Are you concerned for your own well being?
Of course. And it makes me feel sad. It breaks my heart. I bought
a 1750s building. Read the beginning of the last Trends Journal
... there's a story called "Haunted by Hitler," and how
I came back from Germany in April, and I said to myself, how could
the Germans, who were at the top of Western Civilization in the
1930s, let a two-bit freak destroy them? How could the Italians?
I mean, look
at the Germans ... Wagner, Einstein, Dietrich, Lang, Beethoven,
Bach ... the list goes on! How did the Italians let a little cartoon
character like Mussolini destroy them? How did the Americans let
Bush and Cheney destroy the nation, take them to war and put them
under fear and control with Homeland Security? How could people
believe in the presidential reality show again ... Romney or Obama?
How could they?
It's the human spirit that allows people to do this. What is it
about the human spirit that lets people give their lives up for
others to run them? It goes back to the Seed Event. The SEED ...
You're the seed. You better grow it.
So back to
reading the latest version of Trends Journal: How can people
keep letting these sociopaths and psychopaths with proven track
records of failure and destruction keep leading their lives? There's
a wonderful Buddhist saying: When the student is ready the teacher
appears. I always make this clear: I've had great teachers and a
lot of them, in a lot of different areas. One teacher who was the
glue for me was John Perkins at Attackproof.com. He taught me close
combat. This is the real deal. Courage is especially important now.
You can't cower to power. I am not here for you to walk over me.
I don't care who the person is, I will fight to the death to preserve
my life. No one is going to take it away from me. If someone is
going to die, it's not going to be me.
So back to
the teacher. My belief is when the people are ready, the leaders
will appear. These guys now couldn't lead me across the street.
Stop following the Pied Piper. The only salvation for the future,
as I see it, is that people have to find the greatness within them
and when they have the courage, dignity, respect, passion and integrity
and they don't cower to power ... only then will they follow leaders
who will improve civilization and not destroy it.
That's a tall order. In our last interview, you stated that women
specifically were contributing to Obama's base because they instinctively
liked his style and personality. Is this still so?
Oh, yeah, more so than ever! "Oh, I like Obama ... I like Obama."
Go no further. Go on Google and look at Obama's interview on "The
View." Watch the performance and then I will ask you this question:
Could you imagine Dwight D. Eisenhower going on "The View"?
Never! Never! And guess what? I wouldn't, either. I would never
watch TV if I didn't have to tune in and see what's going on. I
have to do this for my work.
Update us some more on predictions. Any changes in business tactics
Yes. This is the time to make sure that you are secure. Make sure
that your money is where you want it and where you can get it and
someone else isn't holding it for you. Be prepared for the worst.
In my 32 years of forecasting trends, never have I been more troubled
about what's going on in the world today and where the future is
And I said
this to others, talking to subscribers, and I have had premonitions
before, which were borne out by events, but only once before have
I ever had a premonition as powerful as this. You can go to my forecast
page for the first one, but it came ten months before 9/11 when
I forecasted my top trends of 2001, that Americans wouldn't be safe
at home or abroad.
14, 2000, USA Today used this headline when reporting on
my forecasts: "2001 Will Not be Our Year, Trend Seer Says."
It began with the warning, "Get ready America! If the Trendmeister's
prediction is on target, 2001 will be no walk in the park."
That was right before 9/11.
I feel that
kind of premonition now. I feel a great unraveling. I see the very
first great war of the 21st century unfolding in front of us. Riots
in Spain, riots in Greece. Turmoil in Egypt and Tunisia. Riots in
Bahrain and Yemen. Civil war in Syria, the Sudan, Congo and throughout
Africa. Poverty is rampant and raging in South Africa. You see in
China they are going back to 2009 lows. There's no salvaging the
European Union; it's only going to get worse.
Okay then, more recent predictions, please.
I still believe that gold prices are going to skyrocket and that
digital money is not going to be worth the paper it's not printed
on. I am also very fearful there is going to be an economic crash.
They are going to close banks and you are not going to be able to
get your money out. It's happening in Europe now. It was one of
the top trends we wrote about in 2012, bank holidays. I am concerned
about a collapse. I am concerned about war. I am concerned about
terror, false-flag or real.
Give us an update on the euro and the European Union.
There's no salvaging it. It's only around ten years old and it has
all these problems. But the big news is that what they are doing
is they are trying to centralize power even more by establishing
a European Central Bank that subjugates all of the banks and sovereignty
of all the nations that belong to the Eurozone. That's the real
story. So again, the merger of state and corporate powers ... more
fascism for Europe. They have had it before and you are seeing it
again. Rather than Hitler and Mussolini, it's Deutsche Bank and
Credit Suisse. How much more proof do people need? This haunts me,
that people aren't getting it.
Technocracy? How is that working out in Greece and Italy?
They are bankers and it's working perfectly for the banks. They
are stealing it from the people and giving it to the banks. It's
perfect. It's working out just the way they want it.
The "China Miracle"?
In 1996 I wrote that no matter how China develops, they have 1.2
billion people and a million problems. If Europe and America don't
buy, the Chinese don't make. If they stop producing, you are going
to see civil unrest in China that will make what's happening in
Europe pale in comparison.
What about Argentina and its oil takeover and rolling devaluation?
Is that affecting all of South America?
Well, it's bigger than that. We're facing the first great World
War of the 21st century. We'll end up with another Hitler, another
Mussolini, another Tojo. It all comes down to greed and power; that's
all it ever is. The money junkies have destroyed the world. They
did it in the 1920s, and they are still in control.
Go back to the LIBOR scandal. Our take was that it was a phony scandal.
Can you describe it?
Oh, no, it's not phony at all; it's real. They are rigging the game.
They rig the game to make their balance sheets look better; they
rig the game so they can play the derivatives market. They rigged
the game to cover up how big the panic of '08 was. No, to me it's
a totally rigged game.
Don't central banks fix the price of money every hour of every day?
Yes, but so does LIBOR and they have been doing that for 25 years.
This goes very deep. It shows you control that so few have. That
to me is the story.
Bloomberg is starting a LIBOR in Qatar, the QIBOR. Could that have
anything to do with the current scandal?
Let's look at Qatar. Who owns Al Jazeera? ... Qatar. Who is one
of the prime suppliers of munitions and instigating the revolution
in both Libya and Syria? ... Qatar. They're all in the "club,"
the whole Arab League. Qatar is very powerful for a little country
... and they own Al Jazeera. So they get to spread the propaganda
and they get to arm the people to overthrow city governments.
How are your finances after the MF Global debacle?
I was hurt by it. Nobody likes having their money stolen but, again,
when you tie it all back together, well ... the whole thing is rigged.
Thoughts on the CFTC?
What CFTC?! Who's the head of it? Gary Genzler, who worked under
"John the Slime" Corzine and the Goldman Sachs gang! It's
the money mafia. That's all it is.
You are still buying local, being local and living locally?
All the time ... it's the only way! We have great farmers' markets
here. Repatriate, repatriate ... that's my motto. Bring it back
home. We have a great community here in uptown Kingston. There are
a number of very successful businesses and I know the people. We
are all of the mentality of wanting to see each other do great.
There's not a lot of little minds here, another one of my father's
How about the Internet and what we call the Internet Reformation?
Is the exposure of all this corruption helping?
Yes. I mentioned my career in politics. In all my life I have never
experienced an election year where so many people cared so little
who was going to get elected president. And it's because it's becoming
so transparent what a fraud it all is. I have to give you this quote.
A reader sent it to me; it's a great one. Ready?
voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it."
~ Mark Twain.
When I mentioned
before about America and the world not having a philosophy, look
up the meaning of philosophy. It's the study of general and fundamental
problems such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge,
value, reason, mind. If you put those words together it spells s-e-e-d.
And that is what the event is about. It's about philosophy and what
else is on this planet.
Any final thoughts? Can you give us a few more predictions for 2012?
You spoke of economic martial law last time.
Well, the economic martial law is already in place and it's going
to expand around the world. I am most concerned about a major geo-political
event and an economic crisis. There is no solving the European debt
crisis. The only thing they can keep doing is pumping more money
into it ... but the Ponzi scheme is about to end.
schemes-undreamt-of they will come up with next, no one knows. But
we are facing a timeline analogous to the Crash of '29 and the start
of World War II. The only thing that will stop a rerun is the human
spirit ... but the human spirit needs a lot of work! It's going
to take a lot of hard work to reverse this thing ...
Thank you for speaking out. You are one of the courageous few.
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