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FEATURES 
Not a shred of evidence
Did Saddam Hussein really use industrial
shredders to kill his enemies? Brendan O’Neill is not persuaded
that he did
Forget the no-show of Saddam Hussein’s
WMD. Even George Bush no longer believes that they are there. Ask
instead what happened to Saddam’s ‘people shredder’, into which
his son Qusay reportedly fed opponents of the Baathist regime. Ann
Clwyd, Labour MP for Cynon Valley and chair of Indict, a group that
has been campaigning since 1996 for the creation of an international
criminal tribunal to try the Baathists, wrote of the shredder in
the Times on 18 March — the day of the Iraq debate in the House
of Commons and three days before the start of the war. Clwyd described
an Iraqi’s claims that male prisoners were dropped into a machine
‘designed for shredding plastic’, before their minced remains were
‘placed in plastic bags’ so they could later be used as ‘fish food’.
Sometimes the victims were dropped in feet first, reported Clwyd,
so they could briefly behold their own mutilation before death.
Not surprisingly the story made a huge impact. Two days after Clwyd’s
article was published, the Australian Prime Minister John Howard
addressed his nation to explain why he was sending troops to support
the coalition in Iraq; he talked of the Baathists’ many crimes,
including the ‘human-shredding machine’ that was used ‘as a vehicle
for putting to death critics of Saddam Hussein’. Clwyd received
an email from the US deputy defence secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, who
expressed admiration for her work and invited her to meet him at
the Pentagon. Her Times article on the shredder is still on the
US State Department’s website, under the heading ‘Issues of International
Security’.
Others, too, made good use of the story. Andrew Sullivan, the British-born
journalist who writes a weekly column from Washington for the Sunday
Times, said Clwyd’s report showed ‘clearly, unforgettably, indelibly’
that ‘the Saddam regime is evil’ and that ‘leading theologians and
moralists and politicians’ ought to back the war. The Daily Mail
columnist Melanie Phillips wrote of the shredder in which ‘bodies
got chewed up from foot to head’, and said: ‘This is the evil that
the Pope, the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Anglican bishops
refuse to fight.’ In the Telegraph, Mark Steyn used the spectre
of the shredder to chastise the anti-war movement: ‘If it’s a choice
between letting some carbonated-beverage crony of Dick Cheney get
a piece of the Nasiriyah soft-drinks market or allowing Saddam to
go on feeding his subjects feet-first into the industrial shredder
for another decade or three, then the “peace” activists will take
the lesser of two evils — i.e., crank up the shredder.’
In his book Allies: The United States, Britain, Europe and the War
in Iraq, published in December 2003, William Shawcross wrote of
a regime that ‘fed people into huge shredders, feet first to prolong
the agony’. Earlier this month, Trevor Kavanagh, political editor
of the Sun, claimed that ‘British resistance to war changed last
year when we learned how sadist Saddam personally supervised the
horrific torture of Iraqis. Public opinion swung behind Tony Blair
as voters learned how Saddam fed dissidents feet first into industrial
shredders.’
Nobody doubts that Saddam was a cruel and ruthless tyrant who murdered
many thousands of his own people (at least 17,000 according to Amnesty;
290,000 according to Human Rights Watch) and that the vast majority
of Iraqis are glad he’s gone. But did his regime have a human-shredding
machine that made mincemeat of men? The evidence is far from compelling
The shredding machine was first mentioned in public by James Mahon,
then head of research at Indict, at a meeting at the House of Commons
on 12 March. Mahon had just returned from northern Iraq, where Indict
researchers, along with Ann Clwyd, interviewed Iraqis who had suffered
under Saddam’s regime. One of them said Iraqis had been fed into
a shredder. ‘Sometimes they were put in feet first and died screaming.
It was horrible. I saw 30 die like this.... On one occasion I saw
Qusay Hussein personally supervising these murders.’ In subsequent
interviews and articles, Clwyd said this shredding machine was in
Abu Ghraib prison, Saddam’s most notorious jail.
What was done to corroborate the Iraqi’s claims? Apparently nothing.
Indict refuses to tell me the names of the researchers who were
in Iraq with Mahon and Clwyd; and, I am told, Mahon, who no longer
works at Indict, ‘does not want to speak to journalists about his
work with us’. But Clwyd tells me: ‘We heard it from a victim; we
heard it and we believed it.’ So nothing was done to check the truth
of what the victim said, against other witness statements or other
evidence for a shredding machine? ‘Well, no,’ says Clwyd. ‘[Indict
researchers] didn’t have to do that; they were just taking witness
statements.’
But surely, before going public with so shocking a story, facts
ought to have been checked and double-checked? Clwyd clearly doesn’t
think so. ‘We heard it from someone who had been released from the
Abu Ghraib prison....I heard his account of what went on in the
prison. I was there when [Indict’s] cross-examination of the witness
took place, and I am satisfied from what I heard that shredding
was a method of execution. We knew he wasn’t making it up.’
This is all that Indict had to go on — uncorroborated and quite
amazing claims made by a single person from northern Iraq. When
I suggest that this does not constitute proof of the existence of
a human shredder, Clwyd responds: ‘We heard a victim say it; who
are you to say that chap is a liar?’ Yet to call for witness statements
to be corroborated before being turned into the subject of national
newspaper articles is not to accuse the witnesses involved of being
liars; it is to follow good practice in the collection of evidence,
particularly evidence with which Indict hopes to ‘seek indictments
by national prosecutors’ against former Baathists.
An Iraqi who worked as a doctor in the hospital attached to Abu
Ghraib prison tells me there was no shredding machine in the prison.
The Iraqi, who wishes to remain anonymous, worked at Abu Ghraib
in late 1997 and early 1998; he left Iraq in 2002 and now lives
in Britain, where he is taking further medical examinations so that
he can practise as a doctor here. He describes Saddam’s regime as
‘very, very terrible, one of the worst regimes ever’, and Abu Ghraib
prison as ‘horrific’. Part of a doctor’s job at Abu Ghraib was to
attend to those who had been executed. ‘We had to see to the dead
prisoners, to make sure that they were dead. Then we would write
a death certificate for them.’ Doctors did not witness executions;
after an execution had taken place the victim would be ‘dropped
into a kind of hole, and the doctor would go downstairs with the
policemen or the security guards, into the hole, to confirm the
death’.
Did he ever attend to, or hear of, prisoners who had been shredded?
‘No.’ Did any of the other doctors at Abu Ghraib speak of a shredding
machine used to execute prisoners? ‘No, no, never.’ He says: ‘The
method of execution was hanging; as far as I know that was the only
form of execution used in Abu Ghraib. Maybe sometimes there were
shootings, but I think these were rare.’ However, the doctor tells
me that he did once hear a story about a shredding machine, from
a friend who had nothing to do with Abu Ghraib — but in the version
he heard, the shredder was in ‘one of Saddam’s main palaces’. Does
he think this was a rumour, or an accurate description of a method
of execution used in Saddam’s palaces? ‘Because of what the Saddam
regime was like, anything is possible,’ he says. ‘It might be a
rumour, it might be true.’
Cryptically, Ann Clwyd tells me: ‘I heard other people talk about
a shredding machine, but I can’t tell you who they are.’ However,
one other person who talked about a shredder was Kenneth Joseph,
an American who claimed to have visited Iraq as an antiwar human
shield before concluding that he was wrong and the war was right.
Joseph’s Damascene conversion was first reported by United Press
International (UPI) on 21 March. He told Arnaud de Borchgrave, UPI’s
editor-at-large, that what he had heard in Iraq had ‘shocked me
back to reality’, that Iraqis’ tales ‘of slow torture and killing
made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products,
feet first so they could hear their screams as their bodies got
chewed up’. He also claimed to have ‘made it across the border’
with 14 hours of uncensored video containing interviews with Iraqis.
Yet many have since questioned Joseph’s claims. When Carol Lipton,
an American journalist, investigated his story in April for CounterPunch,
she reported that ‘none of the human shield groups whom I contacted
had ever heard of Joseph’. She also noted that ‘incredibly, nowhere
has a single photo or segment from [Joseph’s] 14 hours of interviews
been published’. These discrepancies led some to speculate whether
the Reverend Sun Myung Moon played a part in ‘the Joseph story’.
Moon, head of the Unification Church (Moonies), owns UPI. Private
Eye suggested that Joseph’s story was ‘a propaganda fabrication
by right-wingers associated with the Revd Moon’s Unification Church’.
Even Johann Hari, a pro-war columnist on the Independent who wrote
a sycophantic account of Joseph’s conversion, has since declared
that Joseph ‘was probably a bullshitter’.
Clwyd insists that corroboration of the shredder story came three
months after her first Times article, when she was shown a dossier
by a reporter from Fox TV. On 18 June, Clwyd wrote a second article
for the Times, describing a ‘chillingly meticulous record book’
from Saddam’s notorious Abu Ghraib prison, which described one of
the methods of execution as ‘mincing’. Can she say who compiled
this book? ‘No, I can’t.’ Where is it now? ‘I don’t know.’ What
was the name of the Fox reporter who showed it to her? ‘I have no
idea.’ Did Clwyd read the entire thing? ‘No! It was in Arabic! I
only saw it briefly.’ Curiously, there is no mention of the book
or of ‘mincing’ as a method of execution on the Fox News website.
Robert Zimmerman, a spokesman for Fox News in New York, tells me:
‘That story does not ring a bell with our foreign editor here, and
it is something you expect would ring a bell. It sounds like something
we would have gone to town with, in terms of promotion and PR.’
And there you have the long and short of the available evidence
for a human-shredding machine — an uncorroborated statement made
by an individual in northern Iraq, hearsay comments made by someone
widely suspected of being a ‘bullshitter’ (who, like the Australian
Prime Minister, made his comments about the shredder shortly after
Clwyd first wrote of it in the Times), and a record book, in Arabic,
that mentions ‘mincing’ but whose whereabouts are presently unknown.
Other groups have no recorded accounts of a human shredder. A spokesman
at Amnesty International tells me that his inquiries into the shredder
story ‘drew a blank’. ‘We checked it with our people here, and we
have no information about a shredder.’ Widney Brown, deputy programme
director of Human Rights Watch, says: ‘We don’t know anything about
a shredder, and have not heard of that particular form of execution
or torture.’
It remains to be seen whether this uncorroborated story turns out
to be nothing more than war propaganda — like the stories on the
eve of the first Gulf war of Iraqi soldiers in Kuwait taking babies
from incubators and leaving them to die on hospital floors. What
can be said, however, is that the alleged shredder provided those
in favour of the war — by no means an overwhelming majority in Britain
last March — with a useful propaganda tool. The headline on Ann
Clwyd’s 18 March story in the Times was: ‘See men shredded, then
say you don’t back war’.

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