I’d guess that Biden “won” the forum—not a debate—51–49 over Ryan. But so what? We saw two lifetime “public servants,”snouts in the trough, differ in rhetoric and body language only. There were no substantive differences on what the government gang should do. Biden and Ryan are both warmongers, welfare statists, torturers, spenders, taxers, and in general domestic and foreign tyrannizers. Both men are servants of the State and the power elite, fighting over what specific interests get to loot the taxpayers and murder foreigners over the next four years. I vote no on Ryden. Or is that Biyan?9:00 pm on October 11, 2012 Email Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.