I agree with
Justin about how the GOP is actually a greater threat to our remaining
liberties, wealth and the continuance of perpetual war than even
the socialist Democrats.
Also I think
he is right about the Paulís young supporter demographics as this
is the least likely group to vote in the conservative Republican
primaries indicating his overall political support is substantially
greater than the smaller vote totals might indicate in the closed
primary process. He also asks Ron Paul where the movement he inspired
and created should go following the GOP Tampa convention ending
on August 30th.
many of my libertarian and freedom movement friends sincerely believe
that Ron Paul should go the third party route following the convention
but I have come to a totally different conclusion although I highly
respect their opinions, views and intellect.
Future Discussion Is For After the GOP Convention
we go from here" is certainly a legitimate question, the Ron
Paul campaign cannot answer this question or even publically explore
the possibilities until after the convention. The political power
of the Ron Paul delegates and campaign through the convention are
totally dependent upon keeping the GOP establishment and Romney
forces guessing on the future of the Ron Paul movement. Otherwise
we will make ourselves irrelevant to the GOP sooner rather than
later. Now they have to consider:
Will Paul endorse
Romney or sit out the fall campaign and general election?
Ron Paul supporters vote for Romney even with an official Paul Campaign
endorsement? Although the answer is certainly doubtful for millions
of supporters but we still need to keep them guessing?
the Romney campaign need to offer the Ron Paul Revolution forces
to get a majority of our support? Speaking only for myself, naming
Rand Paul as his VP running mate and a promise of a Ron Paul cabinet
appointment would get my attention. This would need to be followed
by campaign pledges for real action on the Fed audit and a required
declaration of war for future neocon inspired foreign military actions.
Will Ron Paul
leave the convention and run on a third-party ticket thus insuring
the defeat of Romney and the GOP but alienating much of the GOP
against future action by our freedom forces within the Republican
Party? Iím sure the GOP neocon elites prefer this option, as they
are willing to lose an election in order to guarantee we are run
out of the party but I donít think this is in the best interest
of our movement or the future of the United States.
Political Action Is An Establishment Trap
I believe third
party action whether with the Libertarian Party or another 3rd
or 4th party is political insanity and would constitute
an establishment promoted death trap for millions of Ron Paul supporters
and liberty advocates. Itís a trap folks for the Liberty movement
advocated and crafted primarily by the enemies of freedom and the
same GOP establishment that has already treated Ron Paul and we
his supporters so badly.
Party Results in U.S. presidential elections
The above graph
from Wikipedia shows the utter and complete political failure the
Libertarian Party has been since inception. I was involved in the
1970ís with the South Carolina LP but after a few years realized
our minimal educational success, few converts and limited growth
hampered by an almost complete news blackout and the instilled prejudice
against third party voting was a poor use of limited time, resources
and funding compared to non-political educational efforts.
I am not questioning
the integrity or leadership of LP activists and supporters but only
the difficult mandated structure and ballot access requirements
designed by the two-party monopoly to limit the growth of third
parties. In fact the Republicans and Democrats have worked together
since the 1860ís to make sure they are the only real political game
in town by increasing the difficulty of third party efforts and
this is why none have risen to prominence and electoral victory
since that time.
the mandated ballot access petitioning and costs, a required organizational
structure designed to promote continual infighting and the total
lack of real election victories, the LP and other third parties
are actually little more than a controlled and totally ineffective
political opposition. Third parties exist and were tolerated by
the two parties to keep libertarians and other small government
advocates out of the controlled monopoly system. This worked well
until the Ron Paul 2008 campaign.
The best I
can tell, so far in the primary season. Ron Paul has received over
a million votes not counting caucus states and if he stays in until
the convention, the total will exceed two million. Not bad considering
much of his constituency and support is outside the GOP. My guess
is his supporter base and or protest vote is probably around 5Ė10
last nine presidential elections over the last 36 years from 1976
through the 2008 elections the LP presidential candidates have received
over the entire period less than 4 million votes. Although the LP
has cycled many thousands of liberty supporters through the party
including myself in the early years and provided an education forum
for our ideas, historically news coverage at the national presidential
campaign level has been miniscule at best.
Paul Revolution Is Transforming the GOP
I would suggest
that the two Ron Paul GOP presidential nomination campaigns in 2008
and 2012 have brought more to the American ranks of the liberty
movement than all the presidential campaigns of the LP and all the
funding of free-market think tanks during the entire period.
All of this
changed with Ron Paulís 2008 GOP presidential campaign when hundreds
of thousands of young people flooded into the Republican Party.
The establishment ignored his candidacy, made fun of his freedom
message and utilized the usual bag of dirty tricks in order to limit
his support all to no avail. Again in 2011 and 2012, his vote totals
more than doubled and freedom advocates are beginning to take over
local party organizations.
With Paul running
as a Republican, the party neocon leadership have been unable to
stop the momentum of the Ron Paul Revolution especially involving
young people. We have outraged the establishment by using their
very party institutions, the debates etc. designed to marginalize
us and other threats to their continued control and party domination
as liberty vehicles to promote our movement and the Paul campaign.
Party Leaderships Are Controlled By Special Interests
If the young
Paul supporters continue to participate in the GOP, then the establishment
will be powerless to stop our eventual takeover at the county, state
and potentially the national level as the older propagandized sheep-like,
voters die off. The Internet reformation has made the old "lesser
of two evils" strategy used by both political parties to motivate
voting blocks is thankfully dying.
alternative news sites and free market alternatives open for discovery,
anyone willing to search the net will quickly realize the "lessor
of two evils" is just propaganda. Both parties regardless of
propaganda and rhetoric at election time have similar agendas and
governance plans based on powerful special interests. Neither represents
the people only special interests.
that my generation which had some faith and allegiance to the party
leadership and yet believed in our constitutional and free-market
principles stood by and did nothing to halt the growth of government
and our loss of liberties by the GOP elites when they knew better.
In every election they blindly cheered the election year rhetoric,
voted as they were told and then were somehow surprised after each
election that despite the same old campaign promises their candidates
were little different from the Democrats. Government and foreign
neocon style military actions increased while our personal and financial
freedoms were decimated as surely by the GOP as the Democrats.
Alan Greenspan, the architect of the boom and 2008 meltdown and
Ben Bernanke whose policies prolonged and deepened the recession/depression
were appointed Chairman of the Federal Reserve by GOP presidents.
Nixon gave us the Nixon Shock in 1971 unilaterally cancelling the
direct convertibility of the US dollar to gold, George H.W. Bush
pledged "no new taxes" in his 1988 campaign and then raised taxes
and spending and his son, George W. started two major wars that
continue even today.
Say No To
Third Party Efforts Doomed To Failure
hacks and establishment media have consistently floated trial
balloons and repeatedly questioned Ron Paul about will he make
a third party run if he fails to secure the GOP nomination. They
want him to run third party.
because a third party effort and likely vote total will be small
like all previous third party presidential candidates because
Americans historically do not vote for third party candidates.
Polling percentages usually start high and continually drop until
this would validate their claim and propaganda message that Ron
Paul supporters are not real Republicans and add credibility to
their goal to push us out of the party as we are in fact rapidly
taking over precinct by precinct and county by county. Over the
next four years they fear our liberty forces may well take over
some states and then the establishment leaders are out of their
powerful influence peddling positions.
party run is a trap promoted by the GOP neocon elites and their
buddies in the establishment news to destroy the growing power
of our movement and our threat to their neocon controlled Republican
Party. The rules third parties are required to operate under were
designed by the democrats and republicans to ensure their control
over the one party state operating as a two party monopoly.
require third parties to spend millions on ballot access and set
up third parties as fertile ground for black flag operations,
attractive to extremist views and rules are designed to cripple
our credibility, fritter away our financial resources and support
on useless repeated ballot access drives each election year and
divide our movement. Right now the Libertarian Party is only on
the ballot access in 27 states so you can see the difficulties
They want Ron
Paul and us out of the Republican Party. He has created hundreds
of times more support, education success and made our views more
prominent in the press than has the LP since inception. A third
party action is a recipe for disaster and failure designed and crafted
by the GOP to get us out of their party. We should stay and fight
for our liberties inside the GOP as only here using their institutions
designed to control us do we have the chance to be free once again.
Is the Future For Liberty In the Political Process?
Lets take over
the GOP from the inside rather than fight them in a rigged election
process where third party candidates are hidden by a news blackout
enforced by both parties and the main street news media. For example,
how many times have the national LP candidates been in a debate
with the candidates of the GOP and Democrats? Contrast this with
Paulís repeated debate inclusion during the 2012 primary season.
do not for third party presidential candidates in the general election.
At the end of this election will we be remembered and feared as
a 15% voting block that is taking over the GOP one county at a time
from the good ole boy establishment or do we fall for the third
party attraction and receive a meaningless one time few percent
of the national vote on November?
Our one chance
for ultimate victory is to in fact take advantage of the GOP party
rules used for years to rally conservative and free-market voters
at election time. Of course, they then dismiss us after election
day until the next siren call for voters to support a GOP with less
government rhetoric but in fact almost a mirror image of the socialist
Democrats. Like the unions and liberal voting blocks of the Democrats,
we are considered little more than voting cannon fodder to be used
at election time.
In my opinion,
a rush to the Libertarian Party or another third party if Ron Paul
doesnít win the presidential nomination is a big mistake that could
dramatically weaken the power and cripple the future viability of
his liberty movement. I personally will not even consider voting
for Romney unless he picks Ron or Rand Paul as his VP candidate
and if it is Rand, Ron is offered a top cabinet position as Secretary
of the Treasury etc.
Note, Iím certainly
not urging Paul supporters to support a Romney/Paul ticket rather
Iím keeping my options open in order to provide the maximum leverage
to Paul forces at the convention by categorically stating "No
Paul = No Vote For the Republican Ticket in November".
meaningless gestures like a prime convention-speaking slot or influence
over the party platform will buy my support. I suggest you do the
same until after the GOP convention, and then let your conscience
be your guide.
A Wing &
Our goal should
be to build a permanent, expanding Paulian or liberty wing of the
Republican Party over the next four years. I donít believe we have
a prayer of impacting policies or relevance in the political process
if we go down the road of good intentions but unintended negative
consequences of third party political action.
We should remain
active in the GOP and work to gain majority control over local precincts,
county organizations and play by the rules unlike many of the present
party hacks and leaders. Second, we should run for office and support
candidates especially at the legislature level that share our views.
Third, run or support candidates running for Congress over the next
four years that will advance our freedom oriented objectives concerning
the Federal Reserve, rolling back the police state, sound money
and an intelligent foreign policy.
the Nomination But Will Lose In November Unless
and manipulated GOP nomination process is over except for the coronation
convention and media circus. Its all fake just like the Hunger Games
extravaganza and Mitt Romney will be the GOP presidential candidate
but his victory march may well end where it begins in Tampa.
First in November
heíll automatically get the GOP moderates and the usual "status
quo" Republican country club types who have no philosophy but
just want to be on the winning team for contracts, graft and power.
He will get endorsements and votes from social conservative supporters
of Gingrich and Santorum and the earlier presidential candidates.
But he will likely lose two key constituencies required for him
to win against Obama and the Democratic machine and this is Ron
Paul supporters and conservative evangelicals.
The GOP political
establishment view is even supporters of Ron Paul will in the end
vote Republican for Romney because his rhetoric is more free-market
and capitalist than Obama. Well maybe but we only have to look at
the failed George Bush regime to see how little that really means
when we consider two failed wars, the market and real estate crash,
the falling dollar and the bank and Wall Street bailouts. I suggest
that very few of us Ron Paul supporters will vote for Romney because
we agree with Justin Raimondo, the GOP establishment needs to be
taught a lesson.
They do need
to be taught a lesson but if we leave the GOP and go the third party
route and Romney and the Republican candidates lose, then we will
forgo any chance to takeover the GOP or for longer-term political
action within the party thus wasting much of our internal organization
success to date. This will validate the GOP leadership smear that
we arenít real Republicans and the growing power of freedom forces
inside the party will be eliminated.
Paulers Vote For Romney?
A young woman
made the best case for Ron Paul supporters Iíve seen or read on
Facebook several days ago. Quoting her from the Youtube video below
made me realize how much the Ron Paul Campaign has accomplished
so far in this election cycle. I urge you to watch and listen to
her reply to a neocon friend who suggested, "a vote not cast
for Romney is a vote for Obama." Therefore we should vote for
But her statement
is almost as powerful in text form quoted below:
not afraid to lose if losing means our integrity and principles
remain with us. Our numbers have tripled in this election and we
have already won. We have spread the message of individual liberty
far and wide. Ron Paul has inspired the liberty movement in Africa,
in Europe, even in Korea. Only a third of American colonists believed
that the Revolutionary War was necessary and they changed the course
of history forever.
It is our turn
now to do the same. An election outcome will not change that. We
are willing to lay down our lives for the cause of liberty if it
is required of us and it may be. I welcome losing if the winning
team is not supporting the principles this country was founded on.
But I will
not go as a lamb to the slaughter and vote for someone who my heart,
my gut and my reason tell me are not right for this country. Like
Patrick Henry said, "I know not what course others will take
but as for me, give me liberty or give me death"
women speaks for millions of us who will not vote for Mitt Romney
in 2012 unless he unilaterally guarantees us he will advance our
freedom agenda. He can do this by naming Rand Paul as his VP running
mate and a promise of a Ron Paul cabinet appointment, followed by
campaign pledges for real action on the Fed audit and a required
declaration of war for future foreign military actions.
We live in
a one party state and we have a chance to take over and redirect
the GOP in coming years. Otherwise all the work Ron Paul and his
freedom supporters have done will be lost in a third party effort.
That may provide us satisfaction and this is what the GOP elites
need but it is a very short sighted view of how we may still save
these United States and the patriot dreams of our founding fathers.
I prefer watching
the upcoming Hunger
Gamesmovies as pure entertainment instead of what will
be a sad dystopian future for the United States. I hope we all hang
together and keep our powder dry until after the GOP convention,
wait for Ron Paul to address us hopefully after Romney has responded
favorably to the requirements of the Ron Paul Campaign and us his
supporters. Then each of us can make our own election year choices.
Mitt, we know
you want very much to be President of the United States. I believe
you will need to name an evangelical or mainline Christian as your
running mate to have a chance to win a sizeable enough evangelical
vote majority to have a chance to win the November election.
While the prejudice
against Mormons is unfortunate it does exist due in part to some
strange (to non members) LDS Church beliefs and practices combined
with a lifetime of mostly negative evangelical preaching against
the Church. This prejudice will negatively impact your votes especially
in the South during the November election.
will also need the 10Ė15% of the electorate who consider themselves
Ron Paul supporters and we will likely stay at home unless you nominate
a Ron Paul free-market thinker to the ticket. The standard conservative
neocon like Gingrich, Santorum and other former candidates in the
primary will not meet our litmus test. Your first choice should
be Ron or Rand Paul but others could include Tom Woods, Judge Napolitano
and maybe a few others.
This is your
decision to make but you will be defeated if you not bring both
Ron Paul supporters and conservative Christians into your campaign
and address our major concerns. Speaking as a Ron Paul supporter,
my first editorial after the election, should you not address our
concerns and lose in November, will be titled "Mitt, We Told You