Doug
Casey on Books – Doug's Ideal Library
Interviewed
by Louis James, Editor, International
Speculator
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by Doug Casey:
Russell Means
L:
Doug, I've heard from several readers that they are looking forward
to our talk about books – books in addition to those on Speculative
Fiction which we've already discussed. So, have you perused
your library and are you ready? Or did you decide not to bother,
since the world will end the day our next conversation is to be
published?
Doug:
Ah, the Mayan Calendar. Nobody except for a few highly specialized
archaeologists would know anything about it if it weren't for books.
But the people who take it seriously don't read books. They almost
certainly read about it only in those tabloids you buy at grocery
checkout stands – or perhaps from watching TV, where the presenter
is encapsulating a tabloid article. Further proof that it's not
what people know that's the problem, it's what they think they know
that just ain't so. Anyway, the world is supposed to end on the
winter solstice, not December 12, the way I heard it. I'll be celebrating
the winter solstice – actually, the summer solstice down here in
Argentina – while that particular class of morons is awaiting the
end of the world.
As for books,
we can talk about that, but I have to say, much to my shame, that
I hardly read books anymore – not since I got a computer. I feel
terrible about this – even guilty.
L:
I didn't think you were capable of feeling guilty. Regret, perhaps,
but guilt seems most un-Doug-like.
Doug:
Well, my dictionary says guilt is a feeling of responsibility or
remorse for some offense or wrong, whether real or imagined. And
not using my time in the best way possible to gain more understanding
of the way the world works does feel like a wrong against myself.
So, although I like to avoid acts of either commission or omission
that will make me feel guilty, I think I may stand somewhat guilty
here.
But there are
significant mitigating circumstances. I've gone to reading articles
– anything you want is available on the Internet. Although reading
books is part of my mental self-image, what I wind up reading most
of the time these days is a wide variety of articles online. I read
articles about books mostly from dreadfully left-wing magazines
like the New York Review of Books, The New Yorker, The Atlantic,
and such. But by the time you finish all these articles, you don't
have time to actually sit down and read a book. Talk about perverse…
although, at this moment on my bed stand, there's a book on the
Dowager Empress, and I'm reading that for about a half-hour every
night.
L:
I can see why you might feel distraught; it's like going to class
after reading the Cliff's Notes instead of the assigned
classics. You might retain the gist, no one might even be able to
tell, but you would know, and still feel like you're
cheating. On the other paw, you get the gist of many more books
this way, and feed that guru-machine in your head with more ideas.
That can't be all bad. And the fact that you make this choice says
you're getting greater value this way – or you wouldn't do it.
I also don’t
read as much as I used to, but it's not because I read magazine
articles about books. It's because I can get WiFi on airplanes these
days and so many other places, that I can now work during times
that I was previously forced to pull out a book in order to avoid
boredom. I used to read several books a week, and now I'm lucky
to get through one a month.
But it's not
just work; you can play chess online with your wife while you're
in the tub and she's out in the garden. We've got instant access,
not just to books, movies, and games, but to other people, 24/7.
It's not all crap, as some critics like to say; it's not even all
entertainment. A lot of it is useful, valuable, and even profitable.
Still, the quiet times that we used to use to read simply don't
exist anymore – not unless we make a real, conscious effort to carve
such time out of our busy days.
Doug:
You're absolutely correct about that. Pareto's Law operates online,
as everywhere: 80% of everything is crap, and the other 20% breaks
down ad infinitum with a repetition of the 80-20 rule.
As with so many other things, it means that you have to have self-discipline
if you want to control the shape of your future self. Anyone can
grow in a reliable and coherent way, as opposed to ending up an
accidental sum of the random things that happen to them, but it's
hard work. So few people bother.
On the whole,
these new connectivity technologies are a mixed bag; the plusses
are obvious, but the minuses are serious. I'm not on Twitter, and
though I do have a Facebook account, I never ever use it. Generally,
these things consume huge amounts of time, usually only to transmit
trivial information; it just serves to clutter your mind. The Kindle
revolution, on the other hand, offers huge advantages – you can
read almost any book you want, anywhere, and never have to remember
to take the right one with you. David Galland is a big Kindle fan.
But I still don't cotton to Kindles, as much as I appreciate the
concept. Maybe I'm just a dinosaur, but I prefer reading words printed
on paper.
L:
Well, I'm younger than both of you, and I still prefer physical
books. I own thousands of them, lining my shelves, gathering dust
… but I just like them. I like the way it feels
to hold one in my hands. I like the way they smell. I like the sound
and feel of turning a page, all alone, deep in the night.
Doug:
Me too. And the books in my library won't disappear when the power
goes out. Electronic forms of data storage seem like an unstable
way to try to ensure the survival of civilization in the face of
EMPs and cyberweapons that target data itself. This is one reason
why, as we finish up building the infrastructure at La
Estancia de Cafayate, we're putting in a significant library
of physical books. But it's also for the same reasons you give;
I just want to sit in a comfortable leather chair, smoking a fine
Cuban cigar, sipping my wine, and reading a great book in a great
library. Just as I insisted we put in a world-class gymnasium and
a world-class health spa, I insisted that we'd have a large and
well-selected library.
L:
Which brings us to the heart of the question: what does Doug Casey's
ideal library look like? I'm sure there'll be a humidor…
Doug:
No question about that! I probably own well over 5,000 books. Enough
that there isn't a snowball's chance I'll ever get to read but a
fraction of them.
L:
[Chuckles] And maybe over in the corner, a chair by an outlet for
David's Kindle. But the real question is: what would the selection
of books look like? I guess you'd start with the classics, and maybe
the first book on the list would be Edward Gibbon's History
of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
Doug:
Yes, definitely. Gibbon's book is not only fantastic literature,
a great read, and very educational, but it's also a laugh riot;
the man had a real sense of humor. Who says ancient history has
to be dry? It's a perfect example of my favorite sort of reading
– despite our conversation on speculative
fiction, I actually prefer nonfiction to fiction. Good fantasies
can be thought-provoking – my favorite certainly being The
Lord of the Rings, which I read straight through in one
weekend because I simply couldn't put it down – but understanding
what real people have done and are doing in the real world in more
valuable and interesting to me. This is one reason why I'm such
an avid student
of Roman history. But Greek and medieval history too.
L:
So what else, besides Gibbon?
Doug:
Well, Gibbon was not an ancient himself, but I'd make sure we have
annotated volumes of all the ancients we can get hold of, from Homer
to Aristotle to Cato
the Younger. Every educated person should read the Iliad
and Odyssey.
They're rather long, about 15,000 and 12,000 lines respectively,
but I find it quite… cosmic… to relate to minds from roughly 2,700
years in the past. And everyone should read Caesar's De
Bello Gallico. It's simple enough that second-year Latin
students read it in the original. And there are many books that
have come out in recent years that take advantage of archaeological
discoveries to better reconstruct the classical era.
L:
I confess I have not read many of those; I think I'll have to expand
my own library.
Doug:
Fewer things count as money more well spent. But I don't read only
ancient literature; more recent classics are an important cornerstone
in the foundation of a
good education. I'd start with a complete set of the works of
Shakespeare and move forward from there. It sometimes seems to me
you can almost absorb things from a book by osmosis, without even
reading it – just by handling the volume.
L:
I have an enormous and abiding respect for The Bard – it never ceases
to amaze me how he could see human nature so clearly, write about
it so powerfully, and do it all in rhyme. But I confess I've always
found it hard work to actually sit down and read Shakespeare. And
Chaucer I couldn't read at all. I also tried reading Cervantes in
the original Spanish, Don Quixote being such a hero of mine, but
found it quite impenetrable.
Doug:
Well, different strokes for different folks. I know you're fluent
– my Spanish is just a grade above what's needed to deal with waiters
and taxi drivers. But that's a good point about classic works in
other languages and translations into English... including Chaucer,
which is slow going in the original. We'd want them all.
We'll have
a history section with all the greats, like Gibbon. Speaking of
the value of books, I was just looking at compendium of quotes by
Gibbon – his master work was originally published in eight fat volumes
– and came across this: "The Germans, in the age of Tacitus, were
unacquainted with the use of letters; and the use of letters is
the principal circumstance that distinguishes a civilized people
from a herd of savages incapable of knowledge or reflection. Without
that artificial help, the human memory soon dissipates or corrupts
the ideas entrusted to her charge; and the nobler faculties of the
mind, no longer supplied with models or with materials, gradually
forget their powers; the judgment becomes feeble and lethargic,
the imagination languid or irregular."
He was, incidentally,
notwithstanding their illiteracy, a big fan of the Germans of that
era. I suspect, however, that he'd compare today's Germans to the
Romans of the late empire – not nearly as admirable as their ancestors.
Giants walked the earth in those days… but people have always believed
that about the past.
L:
Okay… I guess there'd be a pre-history section as well, though I've
no idea what the most authoritative and respected works of paleoanthropology
would be.
Doug:
Yes, but I'm at a loss to name names. My library is scattered around
the world – in Aspen, Auckland, and Buenos Aires – and I’m currently
in a hotel room in Sao Paulo, which I'd describe as a super-sized
version of LA, but without the charm. Hmmm… a Kindle would actually
look pretty good at the moment.
But that brings
us to the science section – or sections. There will be a comprehensive
set of the best books on all the hard sciences, from basics to advanced
study material, and cutting=edge research, as well as popular treatments
like Erik Drexler's seminal book
on nanotechnology and Richard
Dawkins' books on genetics and reason. There are hundreds in
that class.
L:
Subscriptions to Scientific American and peer-reviewed
journals?
Doug:
Maybe some, but magazines pile up pretty quickly – that might be
the sort of thing best left for the one computer we will allow in
the corner. We'll need one so people can browse a complete selection
of The
Teaching Company's offerings. They are fantastic. I wish I'd
bought shares in that company when I first discovered it… even though
it's private and has no need for capital, I'm sure. They've found
the very best professors in the world in their respective subjects,
and recorded command performances of their best lectures. These
courses are so good, they by themselves are a major reason why going
to college these days is such a waste of money. After all, the point
of going to college is supposed to be to learn something, not just
get a piece of paper that says you sat – or slept – through a bunch
of typically second-rate classes. Being able to take these courses
on your own, whenever you're wide awake and rested, sitting in a
perfect environment that suits your own needs, is just about the
best way to educate yourself there is today.
L:
You're going to have a computer in your library? I think I'm shocked…
Doug:
Well, there are such things as earphones. And we'll have a wide
selection of Teaching Company courses in the media theater for viewing
or listening, along with hundreds of well-selected movies. A really
good movie can actually outdo the book it's scripted from. A lot
of data is subtly presented on the silver screen. It's quite true
that one picture can be worth a thousand words. Movies
are underrated as a means of transmitting culture.
L:
Well, I'm glad the media theater won't be in the library. Even with
headphones, some people turn those things up so loud, you can hear
their brains frying halfway down a packed 747. As for the one computer
you allow in the library, maybe we could put it under one of those
"cones of silence" like in the old Get
Smart TV show.
Anyway, what
about the so-called social sciences? Do you include only Austrian
economists, maybe some Chicago
School, and others you agree with? Or do you include works of
the enemy, so you can better know him? Where others might hide sexually
explicit material in a back room, does your "adult" section have
Keynes and Marx?
Doug:
We'll have them all. It's very dangerous to oppose something reflexively,
if you're not personally familiar with it. That's one reason I subscribe
to the magazines I mentioned earlier. It may entertain many people
to actually try to read Das Kapital and see what all the
fuss is about. Although I've only met one person who even claims
to have made it through all three volumes…
L:
You're one up on me, then; I've never met such a person. Most seem
content to point at it on the shelf, and assert that all is proven.
Hm. We're focusing on nonfiction, but your library will have all
our
favorite Speculative Fiction as well, won't it?
Doug:
Absolutely. What I'm really after, primarily, is to create a comfortable
place where I can relax with a good book on any subject that might
interest a renaissance man. Or maybe play a game of chess, or go,
to mellow out with a friend. I may not solve any of the cosmic problems
that have puzzled thinkers for thousands of years, but I'll have
fun passing the time until technology and magic become indistinguishable.
Life consists, after all, of basically two things: thinking and
doing. You have to keep a balance between them.
L:
Perhaps you won't resolve any ancient paradoxes, but you've said
many times that as broad and deep an education as possible is an
essential part of the education
of a speculator. I think this is what distinguishes Casey Research
from other market-analysis shops. Many people see patterns and build
models that seem to have enough predictive power to make it worth
betting on them – and I don't just mean chartists – without reference
to a deeper understanding of what's going on in the world. The problem
is that those patterns do seem to work, but only work as long as
nothing changes. They can't warn you when they are about to become
obsolete. If you don't have a really sound grasp of what's going
on in genetics, nanotech, communications tech, as well as global
geopolitics, and current trends in psychology and social phenomena,
you really open yourself up to being blindsided.
Doug:
That's exactly right. It's much as we discussed on education
in general. The more knowledge you have in your head, the better
the chances that you'll be able to transform that knowledge from
a random accumulation of facts into wisdom and good judgment that
can enable you to act profitably – and I don't mean only in a financial
sense. This is why I try to continue building up my knowledge and
forging connections between the many things I learn about. For one
thing, it makes life more interesting. For another, knowledge is
a key to simple survival. You never know when you might be walking
along a road and meet a sphinx who asks you three life-or-death
questions.
L:
[Chuckles] This is another way of looking at what we've been saying
is the essence of successful speculation: turning intellectual capital
into financial capital. The greater the intellectual capital, the
greater the capacity to deploy it generating financial capital.
Period.
Doug:
Yes, intellectual capital can definitely be transformed into financial
capital. And financial capital is helpful in gaining intellectual
capital. Oddly enough, I don't tend to read books on finance and
investment. Almost everything you really need to know about these
fields was summed up by Benjamin Graham in his classic masterpiece,
The
Intelligent Investor, over 60 years ago. Almost everything
since has been a morass of contradictory and mostly worthless opinion.
It's better to grasp the fundamentals, study the world, draw your
own conclusions, and seek to deploy your knowledge – far better
than chasing after whatever the latest fashion in trading is. I'm
not saying there aren't excellent investment books – simply that
you have to budget your time. Even a serious reader would be lucky
to get through a thousand books in his life.
L:
That's interesting about not reading investment books. People often
ask me if I read books to learn my trade – if there's a book that
can teach them to evaluate mineral-exploration companies as I do.
There are some relevant titles out there, but there really isn't
anything that fully sums up what's most important, in my view. Maybe
I'll write one someday, but right now, I'm too busy doing it to
write about it.
Doug:
Actually, you could take the past editions of the International
Speculator, arrange them by subject, edit them, expand on them
where necessary, and you'd have an excellent book on investing in
mining. I'm twisting Marin Katusa's arm to get him to do the same
thing on energy. And actually, this constitutes a defense for not
reading as many books as I once did. Reading well-done articles
is like reading books on the installment plan. Articles tend to
be tighter and more to the point than books. It's arguable that
you can acquire more knowledge reading 1,000 articles than you can
reading 100 books of the same length, for that reason. Too many
books tend to be padded articles.
L:
Okay then. Thanks for a fun conversation – a bit less grim than
usual.
Doug:
You're welcome.
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